It sucks, but healthcare reform probably won’t help remove any of these mandates. In one of the propositions by a member of the ‘pack of 6′, 12,000$ coverage would be mandatory for families. If the family did not get the coverage, they pay a fine of 3-4k$, which helps to pay for people who can’t afford coverage. makes a ton of sense, doesn’t it? make middle-class families who can’t actually afford it pay a fine to support the lower class.
Well, I think she makes a little mistake here: the federal government has no authority to do away with state mandates. That’s needs to be something the people of each state push their own governments to do. But it’s correct that one of the many ways government interference inflates the cost of health care.
There is a HUGE difference between selfishness and opposing big government, massive debt, mounting financial turmoil for our children to inherit, and a growing portion of society that demands entitlements and handouts. If you are so affluent that these things do not affect you, then feel free to donate toward the cause, but don’t EXPECT the others to work harder and longer for those that won’t…
Car insurance premiums are determined by factors such as cars value/replacement cost/theft rate in that zip code/age of the driver ie: young speed demon or older. RISK factors based on the INDIVIDUAL car and owner. I’m not gonna pay more to help “spread the cost” for somone who drives a Cadillac Escalade when I drive a 99 RAV4. I don’t think it’s fair that a fit, healthy individual should pay to “spread the cost” of somone sittin around eatin doughnuts and McDonalds all day.
It would be like only having people that get into car accidents pay for car insurance. People that don’t have car accidents would not need to pay for any insurance???? If that were the case then there is no insurance, i.e., no spreading of risk. If only women needing in vitro fertilization had to pay for it then it is not insurance, then you just pay for it directly.
The point about insurance is to spread the cost. I have not seen a doctor in 7 years. I am very healthy, I do not need health insurance now. My health insurance cost about 12,000 per year for me and my 2 kids. When a catastrophic medical need happens then there are resources available to pay for the treatment. When you are in the greatest need of serious medical care, you are likely to be the least capable to pay for it. Now you can be denied treatment after having paid for all those years.
This crap bill is nothing but a government take over of the health care system. They plan to under cut the private insurance companies forcing them out of business. Creating a “public option” under which most businesses will drop their health care and tell their employees to get on the public option. Once accomplished. They’ll claim they didn’t expect most people to get on the government option and they must raise taxes to support it. Eventually culminating in an national sales tax and rationing
Yes, I believe health care and education should be rights, although not guaranteed. I don’t know why you’d use a house as an example, but that’s not really important.
What is important is defining what is ‘hard’ work, because quite frankly, it’s something subjective. I think it is important to consider that some people have to work more to enjoy some these ‘privileges’ than others.
As for the alleged argument about ’socialism vs. capitalism’, I don’t think either one is adequate. ?
A combination of socialism, communism, and capitalism in form of regulation on wealth; creation of sustainable jobs for the poor; free, universal education; for small communities.
In short, a resource-based economy where the goal is to maximize efficiency by focusing on the progression of technologies.
The difference betweeen this Bill and the private sector is that you are allow to read it. Ask to read the policies and protocols of your private insuranse.
Believe it or not, health-care, a home, an education are NOT guaranteed “rights”.
These are all privileges that we’re allowed to EARN by our own hard work, NOT someone else’s.
As for your arguments about socialism vs. capitalism. In a free-enterprise system like America (used to be), the “poor” here are MUCH better off than the “middle class” in MANY 3rd-world countries.
And because they live in a FREE system here, the “poor” have the ability to upgrade their lifestyle if they want to.
What possible merits does socialism have? Bigger gov’t? More welfare? The problem with Socialism lies in it’s roots- that Gov’t will take care of everybody. What people forget is that it’s IMPOSSIBLE for the gov’t to “take care of” someone without TAKING from someone else first.
That’s why it will never work. Without fail, it creates a system that rewards people for NOT working, and punishes the people who actually DO work, thereby removing all incentives.
It is true that there will always be poor people with a Capitalist system, but it’s a necessary evil; even a law of nature. While competition does means that someone has to lose, ultimately everyone benefits from the growth caused by competition. The poor get richer from true free-market capitalism in the long run.
Great video, I never knew anything about state mandates and what it cost the people in terms of health care. Although I would love for more people to buy their own health care if the cost was slashed, I suspect there is a large group of people who rather not pay for health care but rather other people pay for it for them.
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February 4th, 2010 at 7:59 pm
No its not public schools are waste, and that goes for a lot of what the government does.
February 4th, 2010 at 8:55 pm
I love this woman
February 4th, 2010 at 9:42 pm
It sucks, but healthcare reform probably won’t help remove any of these mandates. In one of the propositions by a member of the ‘pack of 6′, 12,000$ coverage would be mandatory for families. If the family did not get the coverage, they pay a fine of 3-4k$, which helps to pay for people who can’t afford coverage. makes a ton of sense, doesn’t it? make middle-class families who can’t actually afford it pay a fine to support the lower class.
February 4th, 2010 at 10:11 pm
Good points, but some food for thought:
You are also paying City/County taxes which fund local schools, yet you don’t have children nor plan to have children. Is this fair?
February 4th, 2010 at 10:46 pm
selfish bitch
February 4th, 2010 at 11:39 pm
Well, I think she makes a little mistake here: the federal government has no authority to do away with state mandates. That’s needs to be something the people of each state push their own governments to do. But it’s correct that one of the many ways government interference inflates the cost of health care.
February 4th, 2010 at 11:47 pm
There is a HUGE difference between selfishness and opposing big government, massive debt, mounting financial turmoil for our children to inherit, and a growing portion of society that demands entitlements and handouts. If you are so affluent that these things do not affect you, then feel free to donate toward the cause, but don’t EXPECT the others to work harder and longer for those that won’t…
February 4th, 2010 at 11:51 pm
Car insurance premiums are determined by factors such as cars value/replacement cost/theft rate in that zip code/age of the driver ie: young speed demon or older. RISK factors based on the INDIVIDUAL car and owner. I’m not gonna pay more to help “spread the cost” for somone who drives a Cadillac Escalade when I drive a 99 RAV4. I don’t think it’s fair that a fit, healthy individual should pay to “spread the cost” of somone sittin around eatin doughnuts and McDonalds all day.
February 5th, 2010 at 12:00 am
Very good points. Healthy, normal intelligent people are the losers in socialized systems, insurance included.
February 5th, 2010 at 12:18 am
It would be like only having people that get into car accidents pay for car insurance. People that don’t have car accidents would not need to pay for any insurance???? If that were the case then there is no insurance, i.e., no spreading of risk. If only women needing in vitro fertilization had to pay for it then it is not insurance, then you just pay for it directly.
February 5th, 2010 at 12:38 am
The point about insurance is to spread the cost. I have not seen a doctor in 7 years. I am very healthy, I do not need health insurance now. My health insurance cost about 12,000 per year for me and my 2 kids. When a catastrophic medical need happens then there are resources available to pay for the treatment. When you are in the greatest need of serious medical care, you are likely to be the least capable to pay for it. Now you can be denied treatment after having paid for all those years.
February 5th, 2010 at 1:05 am
This crap bill is nothing but a government take over of the health care system. They plan to under cut the private insurance companies forcing them out of business. Creating a “public option” under which most businesses will drop their health care and tell their employees to get on the public option. Once accomplished. They’ll claim they didn’t expect most people to get on the government option and they must raise taxes to support it. Eventually culminating in an national sales tax and rationing
February 5th, 2010 at 2:04 am
Yes, I believe health care and education should be rights, although not guaranteed. I don’t know why you’d use a house as an example, but that’s not really important.
What is important is defining what is ‘hard’ work, because quite frankly, it’s something subjective. I think it is important to consider that some people have to work more to enjoy some these ‘privileges’ than others.
As for the alleged argument about ’socialism vs. capitalism’, I don’t think either one is adequate. ?
February 5th, 2010 at 2:27 am
What is my alternative?
A combination of socialism, communism, and capitalism in form of regulation on wealth; creation of sustainable jobs for the poor; free, universal education; for small communities.
In short, a resource-based economy where the goal is to maximize efficiency by focusing on the progression of technologies.
February 5th, 2010 at 3:08 am
The difference betweeen this Bill and the private sector is that you are allow to read it. Ask to read the policies and protocols of your private insuranse.
Not going to Happpen
February 5th, 2010 at 3:45 am
Believe it or not, health-care, a home, an education are NOT guaranteed “rights”.
These are all privileges that we’re allowed to EARN by our own hard work, NOT someone else’s.
As for your arguments about socialism vs. capitalism. In a free-enterprise system like America (used to be), the “poor” here are MUCH better off than the “middle class” in MANY 3rd-world countries.
And because they live in a FREE system here, the “poor” have the ability to upgrade their lifestyle if they want to.
February 5th, 2010 at 4:13 am
The gov’t doesn’t tell me what kind of car I should buy, do they?
Of course not, we buy according to what we need/want to pay for. Imagine that. One size DOESN’T fit all.
Are you saying that if I want a bigger house, or a better car, you’re willing to help me pay for it through your taxes?
The problem is that gov’t has now gotten involved in basically everything, instead of sticking to the limited role it wasdesigned to have.
February 5th, 2010 at 5:11 am
So what’s your alternative?
What possible merits does socialism have? Bigger gov’t? More welfare? The problem with Socialism lies in it’s roots- that Gov’t will take care of everybody. What people forget is that it’s IMPOSSIBLE for the gov’t to “take care of” someone without TAKING from someone else first.
That’s why it will never work. Without fail, it creates a system that rewards people for NOT working, and punishes the people who actually DO work, thereby removing all incentives.
February 5th, 2010 at 5:35 am
It is true that there will always be poor people with a Capitalist system, but it’s a necessary evil; even a law of nature. While competition does means that someone has to lose, ultimately everyone benefits from the growth caused by competition. The poor get richer from true free-market capitalism in the long run.
February 5th, 2010 at 5:42 am
Great video, I never knew anything about state mandates and what it cost the people in terms of health care. Although I would love for more people to buy their own health care if the cost was slashed, I suspect there is a large group of people who rather not pay for health care but rather other people pay for it for them.
February 5th, 2010 at 6:05 am
Another fantastic job Shelly! Thanks again.
February 5th, 2010 at 6:48 am
we need more women like this, and less obsessed with celebrity gossip and makeup tips
February 5th, 2010 at 7:07 am
watch?v=o4nmrZAB1ik
Here is a commercial from NJ governor
s race celebrating mandates.
February 5th, 2010 at 7:08 am
I love you darling but this perspective is faulty. For example, did you know women use medical facilities at a much, much greater than do men?
You should get a health-care program that caters to a better demographic.
BTW, I just noticed I’m paying for OB/GYN
February 5th, 2010 at 7:46 am
Thanks Solomon