Aren’t Services “Rationed” Under Our Current Health Care System?
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Question: If you go to a doctor and he says you need x, y and z done, but your health care provider says “no,” isn’t that “rationing?”
Are you REALLY making decisions about your health care?
Or is some Big CORPORATION making those decisions for you?
Wouldn’t you WANT a system where:
Every resident of the US will be covered from birth to death,
No more pre-existing conditions to be excluded from coverage,
No more expensive deductibles or co-pays,
All prescription medications will be covered,
All dental and eye care will be included,
Mental health and substance abuse care will be fully covered,
Long term and nursing home services will be included,
You will always choose your own doctors and hospitals,
Costs of coverage will be assessed on a sliding scale basis,
Tremendously simplified system of medical administration,
Total portability – your coverage not tied to any job or location,
Existing Medicare benefits for those over 65 will be vastly improved,
No corporate bureaucrat will ever come between you and your Doctor to deny your care?
Will you support HR 676?
http://www.hr676.org/
16 Comments
November 9th, 2009 at 5:32 am
Hell no.. Who is gonna pay for it Sparky? How big is your wallet?
November 9th, 2009 at 6:12 am
My cooperation with an insurance company is voluntary. With the government, it isn’t.
“No corporate bureaucrat will ever come between you and your Doctor to deny your care? ”
Is there a real difference between corporate and government bureaucrats?
November 9th, 2009 at 6:19 am
Yes, I agree with you. And I also wonder when everyone is going to realize that they are paying for healthcare that is three times as expensive as preventive care for those who don’t have insurance. They seem to think that just because there isn’t a federal tax or law on the books, they aren’t really paying for it. They apparently think the money comes from thin air, not from their property, state and city sales taxes.
November 9th, 2009 at 7:16 am
Yes, they are rationed, but given that health care decisions are made by individuals in their best interests the rationing goes to those who value the services the most.
Say, you aren’t one of those dreamers pretending that quality health care is a limitless entitlement and not a precious resource that must be rationed, are you?
November 9th, 2009 at 8:14 am
There are several ways you make a choice or people make choices in some cases you choose your provider. You choose the type of plan from a list. You choose a provider from a list. If you think you’ll never be denied care from a government health agency you better do some real research. As we have it now those who pay for health don’t have to be put on a waiting list for a procedure. They schedule one. If you think there will be no consequences for going to government provided universal healthcare think of all of the current health care employees and insurance employees who will join the 600,000 per week who are now losing their jobs.
November 9th, 2009 at 8:39 am
Rationed, withheld, denied and often economically impossible. that is why our current health care system leads the world in cost but in no other meaningful category.
EDIT: Correction for moose. Mexico does not have the health care system we are proposing. Mexico and the United States are two of only three industrialized countries that do not have a government health care system. Always good to get your facts before you start typing!
November 9th, 2009 at 8:53 am
Your dreamnin’ son. You’re getting alot of PAP from somebody. Don’t worry about the Swine flu stuff…Mexico has the health care Barry’s pushing for.
Don’t let the Canadians cross the border to get medical treatment either. Works like a charm up there.
November 9th, 2009 at 9:19 am
it’ll take me longer than i have available to me today to investigate every detail of the bill as proposed to be able to give a reasoned and rational opinion on the matter.
that said, i do agree with your assertion that health care is indeed being rationed today. not by government, but by multinational corporations that have a vested financial interest and incentive in denying payment of benefits.
my ex’s business partner died recently from cancer. he was diagnosed over a year ago, but no treatment either curative or palliative was considered for him because they had no insurance and could not afford to pay full freight in cash.
there has to be a better way. as a cancer survivor myself, it chills me to the bone to know that if i hadn’t had insurance, i would have died some 14 years ago.
and to my conservative friends who would say, “the GOP wants to make it easier to pay your own bills”…. all i can say is, have you ever seen the bill for a typical cancer patient? no one, and i mean NO one, except the uber-wealthy has that kind of cash laying around.
November 9th, 2009 at 10:09 am
No we do not need the government involved in our personal health. And for your info I have never had a problem with my health insurers.
November 9th, 2009 at 11:06 am
Yes…you are right! Insurance companies for too long have been dictating the health care of others. They have no right to do that. They are greedy just like Wall Street!
November 9th, 2009 at 11:21 am
I agree with one of the commercials fromm AA RP that refers to Medical Insurance as a Medical coupon.
November 9th, 2009 at 11:42 am
Gee, and I can remember when liberals DIDN’T believe everything the government told them, like a flock of sheep. You know, they say the devil always tells the truth, he just never tells all the truth. So here’s what Big Brother’s not telling you:
Every resident in the US will be catalogued and tracked from cradle to grave.
Instead of your doctor deciding what’s best for you, that’ll be the responsibility of some faceless beaurocrat in D.C. reading from a one-size-fits-all Instruction that makes no allowance for individual needs.
Those expensive deductions and co-pays will be taken out of your paycheck in the form of increased taxes – whether you need the doctor each month or not.
All the prescriptions the government decides you need will be covered. Those are the only ones you can have.
Since there will be no competition among doctors, there will be no incentive for improvement and excellence; plus it will be next to impossible to weed out the incompetent because they work for the government now – did you ever try to sue the United States government?
Cost of coverage on a sliding scale means that drug dealer on the corner with no W2 pays zilch while the guy working twelve hours a day at a factory foots the bill for both of them.
A simplified administration system? Have you EVER waited on paperwork from the government?
Yes, very portable, because you are in a national database – which is why the government will know if your doctor gives you an aspirin without permission.
No corporate beaurocrat will ever come between you and your doctor to deny your care – because that’s the government’s job. What do you think these people on Medicare are complaining about?
Wake up, bambi, those are not stars in your eyes, they’re headlights from the Obama 18-wheeler that’s about to smash you flat.
November 9th, 2009 at 12:02 pm
Absolutely.
November 9th, 2009 at 12:20 pm
Of course. Most of us have HMOs that routinely restrict and deny care. How do you think they make their money?
November 9th, 2009 at 12:57 pm
yes. Health care costs are the biggest cause of bankruptcy in this country…why do you think that is?
November 9th, 2009 at 1:28 pm
Of course rationing occurs in the USA. However, Obama is not going to bring about an end to that. He wants to make insurance more available. The companies will still try to get our pf paying when they can…
FACT – the USA spends more on healthcare PER PERSON than any other nation on the planet.
FACT – the US has higher death rates for kids aged under five than western European countries with universal health coverage.
That means that a dead American four year old would have had a better chance of life if they were born in Canada, France, Cuba, Germany, Japan etc, all of which have universal health coverage.